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In 2006 Stefan Jacoby was a VW Board Member then in 2007  became the CEO of VW USA,

and in 2010 he left to head Volvo (VW wanted to buy Volvo from Ford at one point.)

& then when sacked from Volvo he went on to head

GM International.......

Not an Engineer or a Technical person just the Executive in charge in North America & expansion there,

who was expected or was expecting to go on to head VW World Wide.

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http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/04/report-unnamed-vw-executive-suggested-illegal-polluting-software-in-2006

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^So this is where it begins sort of.

 

Stefan Jacoby also worked for Mitsubishi Motors. 

Must have much knowledge across the main players now invloved in the 'cheats scandals'.

Or be 'Tommy' Deaf, Dumb & Blind.

The type of CEO you want If you want a person in charge who understands the '3 monkeys'.

http://sg.linkedin.com/in/stefanjacoby

AN INTERESTING CV / EMPLOYMENT HISTORY.

 

Worth reading on how Volvo later sacked him while in his sick bed.

At least Volvo had enough R&D to go forward with Twincharger Technology.....

http://blog.caranddriver.com/geely-completes-purchase-of-volvo-from-ford-appoints-vws-stefan-jacoby-president-and-ceo

 

http://thelocal.se/20130110/45544

 

The Man himself. 'Stefan Jacoby CEO VW USA aka 'Mr Green diesels'.

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Interesting the report says "VW engineers realised their emissions controls would quickly wear out if required to me U.S. standards".

So it appears the equipment is not all that reliable......tell those who don't know already.

Its OK saying electric vehicles. But I and a lot of others cannot afford the expense. And the range is crap (apart from maybe tesla? And they am expensive. Also charging points am next to none existant and if u had gta do a journey ud have to charge em. Pointless tech at mo

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Its OK saying electric vehicles. But I and a lot of others cannot afford the expense. And the range is crap (apart from maybe tesla? And they am expensive. Also charging points am next to none existant and if u had gta do a journey ud have to charge em. Pointless tech at mo

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Our house hasn't got a garage to install a charging point and neither has any other house in the street. Very few houses in our neighbourhood have garages to charge up electric cell cars. They aren't a practical solution. The only charging point I know of locally is at Sainsburys. Also reading in the Evening Standard last night, Zac Goldsmith is saying that all non Euro 6 cars will be banned from London, talks about taking road fund licensing off Government and introduce a "diesel scrapage scheme" to start an electric car revolution.....How's that going to work?

It wont

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Once the mayors of the eu capitals get together I imagine fundamental infrastructure will result for both fuel cell and ev.

PV roads are already happening in Holand I believe and induction charging may be part of the infrastructure with employment as a side benefit.

Obviously it will be a project if they want clean CBD air.....it just needs a will.

Our house hasn't got a garage to install a charging point and neither has any other house in the street. Very few houses in our neighbourhood have garages to charge up electric cell cars. They aren't a practical solution. The only charging point I know of locally is at Sainsburys. Also reading in the Evening Standard last night, Zac Goldsmith is saying that all non Euro 6 cars will be banned from London, talks about taking road fund licensing off Government and introduce a "diesel scrapage scheme" to start an electric car revolution.....How's that going to work?

 

Supermarkets are one of the key places for placing charging points and they can be the 43 Kw/hr fast charge points.  Fast food sites, retail parks are others.  Renault will install their chameleon charging point 7 kw/hr on a wall close to the meter but clearly putting a trailing lead across the pavement is not ideal.

 

Buy in from such sites mentioned above, plus Nissan-Renault garages, IKEA and other like minded commercial groups, supermarkets like ASDA who put the charge points close to the entrance, allow charging for free all encourage the spread of electric vehicles.  We installed about 4,000 electric car point and bays in Paris, harder in London as Paris is one unitary authority but London is about 40 so much harder to do the roll out but it is beginning this year and we will start using the cars in polluted Heathrow where we can nip out to the freight sheds etc.  Induction loop charging needs to be next I think so you just park it and not have to cable it in.

 

Just needs the extra revenue planned to be raised on non Ultra-Low Emission vehicles to be ploughed back in to charging points in all the places mentioned above plus street parking bays where the parking meter is replaced by a charge point and parking is free in these space when you are charging your electric or plug in hybrid. Simples.    

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None of this is going to happen, the erstwhile largest PV manufacturer is going under along with some notable other big 'green' tech. companies and TESLA is being shorted by people in the know (both divisions) with the suspicion it is in serious trouble.

 

Current 'green' tech. is of no commercial value and a very bad engineering solution. People will never be sold on EVs whilst the financial and practicality compromise is so high and the price of oil so low (and the age of cheap oil/gas has only just begun).

 

Currently an EV car is effectively a coal powered car, which is why the reasonable take up encouraged by subsidies in China (despite the inevitable rampant fraud with ghost cars) has resulted in increased CO2 and increased air pollution.

 

The EU bio-fuel policy has produced the equivalent of 12M extra cars in INCREASED CO2 emissions, and the EU has wasted 1Trillion on green subsidies, yet CO2 emissions (if you even believe they are an issue), have gone UP.

 

If it had been left to the free market without political interference, fracking and natural gas exploitation would be well underway by now and CO2 emissions would already be way down.

None of this is going to happen, the erstwhile largest PV manufacturer is going under along with some notable other big 'green' tech. companies and TESLA is being shorted by people in the know (both divisions) with the suspicion it is in serious trouble.   Current 'green' tech. is of no commercial value and a very bad engineering solution. People will never be sold on EVs whilst the financial and practicality compromise is so high and the price of oil so low (and the age of cheap oil/gas has only just begun).  Currently an EV car is effectively a coal powered car, which is why the reasonable take up encouraged by subsidies in China (despite the inevitable rampant fraud with ghost cars) has resulted in increased CO2 and increased air pollution. The EU bio-fuel policy has produced the equivalent of 12M extra cars in INCREASED CO2 emissions, and the EU has wasted 1Trillion on green subsidies, yet CO2 emissions (if you even believe they are an issue), have gone UP.  If it had been left to the free market without political interference, fracking and natural gas exploitation would be well underway by now and CO2 emissions would already be way down.

 

I don't think solar is or going to be a major force in renewable energy except for local use and it is wind that is showing to be the major contributor and taking over coal fired stations portion and works well with hydro-pumped storage facilities.

 

Coal only contributes an increasingly smaller part of the overall electricity production with the nuclear base load stations providing much of the regular load, cleaner gas and oil fired station providing transient load until they are also phased out by tidal and wind station couple with hydro-storage.

 

With oil prices back on the march upwards again, for the sake of national and personal economy, we need to embrace electric and plug in hybrid cars much more, roll out the preferential parking for such cars so the consequence is to clean up our urban air of NOX and PMs.  

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Toyota and others are covering themselves with development of fuel cell vehicles and the infrastructure has started in Japan, (Korea?) and California .

Times ticking on the reciprocating engine.

April is gone, May has started, no massive recall of 2.0 tdi for software fix in Österreich

 

Is there any deadline or VW will come out of it without, fix, compensation or EU penalties?

An article in the FT says how the UK car buyers are just ignoring the VW Emissions Scandal and VW Sales are healthy in the first quarter.

 

So VW must be doing something right, spending lots on anything other than getting cars into Appointments at Dealership,

but swamping the media with Adverts and news of all these special vehicles they will be introducing, 

and keeping the general public hearing VW and not Audi, Skoda or Seat.

 

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Sorry that article is in 'The Times'. 

 

The Financial Times article is on a Hedge Fund trying to get some action against VW Executives Bonuses due 

to the ongoing Scandal, 

and the likes of VW needing twice as many employees as Toyota to manufacture a similar number of vehicles.

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So VW must be doing something right, spending lots on anything other than getting cars into Appointments at Dealership,

but swamping the media with Adverts and news of all these special vehicles they will be introducing, 

and keeping the general public hearing VW and not Audi, Skoda or Seat.

 

 

Actually I thought the TV advertising was the other way around? When dieselgate first broke there was a plethora of TV ads for Skoda cars and a scarcity of VW ads. Do they really think the buying public is so stupid they don't know Skodas and other VAG brands have the same VW engines?

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Do they really think the buying public is so stupid they don't know Skodas and other VAG brands have the same VW engines?

90% - YES

90% - YES

It is also a shame as the people in the Czech Republic are such nice, good and honest people and to get scooped up in the German company's deceit, lies and prevarication of the fix (ie does it need a flow modifier in the inlet tract plus software tweak, rather than retrospective fitment of SCR which any IC engineer worth his/her salt knows is needed to make the quantum change in NOX ie more than halving it rather than tweaking it by a few percent).

Same applies for the Spanish factories which make SEATs there but at least they have many other brands being made their ie Ford, GM, Renault-Nissan who make over 600,000 more cars than the UK does making them second biggest in Europe.

If the VAG issues does seriously affect CZ then that would be a great shame for such a nice bunch of people whereas I would quite happily see the VW limited to keeping their car purely within their borders until they have regained trust of producing compliant legal diesel vehicles though clearly German engines used in CZ chassis would have to be similarly prohibited from import, could be a control we could impose if we leave the EU.

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So Germans are bad and Czechs are good?

Overgeneralising much?...

I guess Skoda is not exactly promoting the connection at the moment.

The real problem is the regulators don't want to spend EU money financing and  running their own independent test houses and they don't have the same expert knowledge as the manufacturers anyway. They write the rules, specify limits and the test regimes in collaboration with manufacturers who know damn well where the loop holes are. It's called 'soft touch regulation' and its intention is not to stifle competition and economic activity which generates GDP and a wealthier Economic Union. You get agreement from manufacturers through committees and signed documents, then stand back collecting their performance data so they can turn round and claim they have done a good job by producing the paper trail of 'evidence'.

 

I don't blame the manufacturers entirely for exploiting a weakness in the regulatory regime, I blame the regulators for not being smart enough or wanting to avoid turning over stones to look underneath. Independent test houses have been complaining about unrealistic vehicle fuel consumption figures for years and nothing has been done.

 

Let's face it, if they could have reduced diesel emissions to EU6 they would have done it by now. When dieselgate first started I always felt retrofitted Adblue offered the only clean solution without significant performance loss. They won't do that unless they are forced to take back non-compliant vehicles or compensate customers.

Govt regulators are industry 'facilitators'

The foxes look the same as the hens.

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