It all depends who is deciding what an edge case is. Without wishing to offend anyone, my guess is that a large proportion of the members on here are, at the very least, above the age of 45. Indeed, a large portion of you are (from conversations I've read/had) into your 60s. For those, then I don't doubt that much of the newer range of cars doesn't appeal to you! Heck, I'm in my early 20s and nothing in the line-up appeals to me - there's a reason I drive a 2020 vRS and not a 2025 Elroq. Equally though, I myself am an edge case - the majority of people in and around my age group want a car that goes from A to B, with CarPlay and maybe a nice lease deal. They don't want an estate with room for tools and stuff in the back, because they don't have tools. They don't need 800 miles of range, because they fly. They don't need handling, because who cares. They like a shiny badge, flashy headlights and being a bit higher up than everyone else. That said, I'm not trying to appear a dinosaur - I have nothing against electric cars. I absolutely love the performance aspect of them, and find many aspects of them hugely appealing. I just don't like the designs, interiors or the other stuff that comes with them. If they made a sensible, reasonably-sized electric Golf with a normal/traditional interior and exterior, along with 250bhp and some fun toys, then I'd at least test drive it. Not to mention, of course, that anything electric/hybrid remotely performance based and practical, is completely out of the price range of someone my age. I personally hate the direction that all manufacturers are going. if I had to buy a brand new car today, and it had to be realistic, I'm not sure what I'd get. I love a manual, but that's a weekend car job - DCTs are perfect for a daily. I'd want above 300bhp, space for my bikes, something that looks sporty and handles well, has CarPlay and everything but is also not covered in screens and touch sensitive crap (I'm old at heart). The new S5 Avant and M340i models appeal, but they're the thick end of £60k+. Sticking to the brands we know and love... ummmm... maybe I could get on with the new Octavia vRS or Cupra Leon ST (until they ditch them in a year or two). All the hatchbacks are smaller than they used to be on the inside, whilst being bigger on the outside. My dad's 2024 118i has a joke for a boot compared to the 2011 A3 Sportback it replaced (and, btw, is 5 inches longer than an old 2001 328i Touring we used to have). Meanwhile, the 2022 Ibiza FR wasn't much smaller than the A3. Since when did the Polo and Mini Cooper stop being small cars? Who needs a BMW X7 - it's like driving a Chieftain tank! Since when did a hot hatch have 255 section tyres 350bhp and weigh 1600kg? No wonder the BMW XM has 740bhp - it needs it to move 2,800kg! The new 3 series is as big as an old 5 series was, and they're unbelievably expensive if you want any kit on them. Hell, top VW Touareg models, as nice and 350bhp-Q7-leather-esque as they are, go for upwards of £90,000... for a Volkswagen! I agree with whoever said similar above - if everyone had reasonably sized cars and halogen headlights, nobody would feel the need to drive around in crossovers and SUVs (that, btw, are no bigger inside than the estate/hatchbacks they're based on) with collapsed suns blinding you from the bonnet. Stuff like Matrix systems are unbelievably clever, useful and great for safety, but until everyone has them, it isn't going to work. Everything currently on the market is, in my opinion, so overpriced for what it is, and a shadow of how things used to be - in terms of quality, value, practicality, user-friendliness and general usability. All of the new cars I've driven have just not been as good as the previous versions of them I've owned/driven - be it a Golf, a Leon, an A6, a Defender 110 or a 718 GT4. Brands such as BMW M Division, Porsche and others are still keeping the idea of a performance car alive, but I fear they are running out of time. Rant over. I appreciate I've made a multitude of sweeping statements flooded with hyperboles and personal opinion, but you get my drift.